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 10/30/2006 08:47 PM
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annieblue

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I just found the site and I am in the middle of treatments. I share many of the concerns expressed--especially about trapped blood. I can honestly say that my legs hurt more now than ever. The last time I went in and expressed my concerns they said they would stop treatment for 3 months.

What good would that do? just drag it out so I can start all over again in January? Well, the doctor came up with another idea--he would use glycerin injections instead of the sodium. He said some studies showed that these cause less trapped blood. Has anyone heard of this or had these treatments? If they don't cause problems, why aren't they using them all the time?
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 02/08/2006 12:11 PM
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bob555xx

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I'm wondering if the patients with problems had their vein work done by a board certified vascular surgeon? Thanks.
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 04/04/2004 09:23 PM
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Beverley16597

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hi Anonymous I don't know whether you were asking me or someone else however I've decicied to reply.First time I've logged into this website for ages. Though I had to have many treatments the injections were absolutely worhwhile for me.Now I can get housework done, go for walks and well -it's given me a new lease on life. I was wearing support stockings all the time and now - never!I think it's very important to go to a reputable doctor for the treatments.Not just anyone can do them -special training is required. I did have lots of bruising but over several months it all disappeared. I'm pleased with the result.
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 11/16/2003 05:20 PM
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airees_1975

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Hi buppiface, I just wanted to see how you're feeling...did you get a chance to go to another doctor for a second opinion? I've been looking into getting injections done for my varicose veins...I've also been looking into different surgery for my larger varicose veins. Been trying to talk to people that have had these types of treatments. Thanks
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 11/01/2003 05:20 PM
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airees_1975

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Hi, do you think your injections were worth getting for your varicose veins? I've been hearing a lot of bad things with the injection, how long did it take for all the marking from the injections to go away?
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 07/27/2003 09:52 PM
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judy0001

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Hello from Georgia..A couple of weeks ago I went to see a vascular surgeon about having the trivex procedure done on both legs. The doctor's office is verifying the procedure with my ins. co. I'd like to hear from someone who has had this done and the outcome of it. Thank You
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 07/04/2003 11:20 PM
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Beverley16597

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Hi Buppiface Hope you're still looking at this page.how are your legs? I've just had my follow up visit(approx a year since treatment) the legs have been pretty good really but the Ultra sound scan showed that I do have a new vein that needs to be treated. I reckon it came last year -when all the new spider veins appeared.It feeds an area on the front of my shin that never did go away after the treatment.I've thought for a while that there might be another bad vein there htough hoped I was wrong. I'll get it done this time.Doctor says he has one patient that gets a new bad vein every year and he treats it. I don't want to do that -too costly. My husband says I should watch Benny Hinn every morning and ask God to heal my legs. Good idea!
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 12/08/2002 08:40 AM
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16263

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Hi BvBrownie! I made it through the MRI and it went ok. My primary care doctor wants me to get a second opinion from another plastic surgeon. He said that the dark, pigmented spots look bad (Dah, I know that!!)& shouldn't still be there. Also, exactly where the lower incision is from the vein Ligation, there is a horrible looking vericose that runs down the lower thigh and ropes around the calf area. Yes, I have pain, too & I am so active with my young daughter - I hardly ever get to sit, so I'm definitely getting the excercise. I just haven't had the time to go get a second opinion. I'll wait until after the New Year. Sorry to hear that you are having some pain & are getting spider veins. Is it alot of spiders or just a few? Will you be going back for some other treatment or just live with it? I'm thinking I'll just use some heavy, waterproof makeup on the dark spots - I'm not really sure if I want to have anything else done since this was a bad experience for me. I just can't believe that my plastic doc only did 1 round of Sclerotherapy! I really think I needed a few more rounds. I'm wondering if the dark spots can be removed with a laser. Keep in touch & I wish you well.
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 11/29/2002 09:45 PM
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Beverley16597

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Hi Buppyface Hope your MRI scan went ok. I hope your legs are better now. My legs are not picture perfect - they get tired from too much standing and I've got new spider veins that get tender and sore.
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 09/27/2002 12:44 PM
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audrey16117

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Hello Beth, I did not have trivex although I almost went through that procedure in Feb. but another Veins Forum contributor did and also complained of a lot of pain. Basically, my insur. co. would not cover it so I had traditional Ligation done with another dr. He made an incision in the groin and used titanium clips to "tie off" the incompetent veins. My leg isn't very bruised at all and the discomfort overall is mild (the incision area is sore) but quite frankly I don't see much improvement yet. I assume that the veins will shrink over time and I will be more satisfied with the results down the road but hope that I won't need too much Sclerotherapy. There seems to be a mixed bag of results no matter what procedure one undergoes. Keep me posted, I'd be curious to know how your healing process goes as I still have my left leg to do. Hope that you feel much better soon, acandrews
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 09/26/2002 05:55 PM
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dtbethie

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Did you have the trivex procedure done? I just did 9/19 and I wish I could report quick recovery like you. I'm still in a tremendous amout of pain! Beth Pocono Mts PA
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 09/21/2002 07:04 PM
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audrey16117

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Hello again, I went through my ligation on 9/19, it was a bit uncomfortable and weird, even with the local anesthesia the tugging and pulling was irritating. For the first four hours or so I was in pain despite the fact that only "20%" of patients need an over-the-counter pain reliever. After the first two hours of pain, I took an Alleve which unfortunately took two hours or so to take effect. I walked after the surgery like I was instructed to but think that the medication to help collapse the veins that was shot into my vein caused the nagging pain. I was much better the next day and am getting around even better today 9/21. I will remove the wrap before bedtime but can already see that there's a significant amt of bruising. I guess that I'll see in the coming weeks if this was all worth it. I am due to have the other leg done but will delay that until I'm happy with the outcome. It's still premature to say what will ultimately come of my varicose vein situation. I am in So. FL and wonder where you folks are. Thanks for the e-mail reply.
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 09/18/2002 09:18 AM
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16263

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Hi acandrews & bvbrownie, I've got to say that I've found out that everyone has a different experience with vein ligation/ sclerotherapy! For me, it has been a "nightmare" and I wish I could wake-up from it! Please make sure that you thorouly check-out the plastic surgeon that will perform the procedure! Ask to see pictures of his/her work and to talk to other patients that have had it done with the doctor. If the doctor refuses, leave quickly and find another doctor that agrees. Unfortunately, I thought I was going to one of the best plastic surgeons in the area for this, so I didn't bother to check out the doctor! Did I ever make a mistake! I had the ligation done in Sept. of '01 and the sclerotherapy done 6 wks. afterwards. It has been a year now and my leg looks absolutely horrible! I have dark brown bruising marks AND a blue, bulging new vericose vein right where my lower incision is! Yes, the veins can vericose again, but they don't do that until a few years after the treatment. I look worse now with the brown spots all over then when I had the "rope vein!" I also, have alot of pain and numbness & tingling in the leg. It is my right leg and the other day when I was out trying to drive, I could hardly press down on the gas pedal because of the numbness! I went to my primary care doctor right after that happened and he couldn't believe how bad my leg looked! He said I DEFINITELY need to go to another plastic surgeon to get a second opinion on the first ones work, and to do it quickly! He also has me scheduled for an MRI the second week in Oct. to see exactly what could be going on in the leg! I am so scared of the MRI because I have a great fear of being closed-in! He prescribed me some anti-anziety pills to take an hour before it! I'll let you all know of the outcome! I am not trying to be negative or to scare you about the procedure, I am only telling you about my bad experience! I wish you the best of luck and beautiful legs! Let us all know how it works out for you! Hello bvbrownie - I am so glad to hear that you have had a good & positive experience and that all is going well with your leg! Take care!
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 09/18/2002 04:53 AM
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Beverley16597

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Hi'I have had sclero this year.You will see my other postings on this forum. Now that I'm a few months down the track since I started the treatment and it's close to 2 mths I think since my last session so my legs have healed up-all bruising gone.Be warned the injections do hurt a bit but fortunately walking seems to relieve them! So that's good and I was advised to walk 30-40 mins every day.Yes my experience is a good one. The Dr was pleased with the result and so am I.It's really great to go to bed at night and not have umcomfortablelegs. However I'm noticing that I still can't do prolonged standing(such as standing in queues -also too much standing at the kitchen bench!Also prolonged sitting is uncomfortable too.I think this has to do with the kind of legs I've got and not the treatment.I find my legs feel much better if I don't miss my walk-the circulation must need it. Yes I'm really delighted with the result.I'm feeling fairly enthusiastic about it now. I wish you all the best with your treatment too.Let us know how you get on.
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 09/16/2002 06:17 PM
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audrey16117

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Hello, I am having one of my legs ligated on 9/19 which will be followed by some sclero treatments in two weeks. My veins are pretty bulgy and achey, I've had this condition for over 10 yrs and after reviewing my options will go through this procedure. I know that some people have not had a good experience with this but was wondering if there is any adice anyone can offer and secondly, has anyone had a good experience with this procedure. Thank you for your time.
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 07/31/2002 07:32 PM
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Beverley16597

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Hi Buppiface, sorry for the delay in replying.I hope you're legs are better now. At this stage I'm pretty pleased with the result - you are ahead of me as you had your treatment last year. I've only just had my last jab session a couple of weeks ago. Legs are bruised and I've had them squeezed again.re new ones appearing - that's my concern too. I notice my legs get tired at the end of the day if I time my daily walk late afternoon.Better to do this earlier.I defintely need it though as my legs can have odd pains if I've had a day of sitting down like in travelling in the carfor sevaaral hours or sitting around with friends in an evening talking.Can't do that for too long.Dr has said if you have the wrong genetics new ones might come.
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 06/16/2002 09:59 AM
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16263

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Hi Bvbrownie! I'm so very sorry that it's taken me so long to write! I have a special-needs child that really takes up most of my time. Sorry to hear that,you too,had to have clots removed! I had to have it done about 7 times. I just hated it - it's so painful! The last time was the end of March & I STILL have a couple of ugly brown spots. It's called hypopigmentation & the doc said eventually they should go away! I thought that by now they would be gone! I am very fair skinned, maybe that's why they show up more. I just don't know! I finally said to myself the heck with it & just had to start wearing shorts! I've been using sunless tanners & they seem to help with blending in the dark spots some. You know what? It looks like another vein is starting to vericose on my leg, already! It's right below my knee area of all places & is very obvious! I can't believe it - I've heard that other veins can vericose in the same leg but I thought it was many years later! I just had this done. If I had to do it all over again, I WOULD NOT do the same thing. There just has to be something else out there that works better, you know? What about you, would you do it again knowing what you now know about it? I hope that all is going well for you & your legs! Looking forward to hearing from you!
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 06/15/2002 09:18 PM
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Beverley16597

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Hi How are your legs now? I hope a lot better. Yes I have had a clot squeezed and yes it was extremely painful.I'm waiting for the marks to fade. Has your bruising gone?
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 03/30/2002 12:02 AM
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Beverley16597

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Hi Buppyface, how is your leg getting on? I've just had my third lot of injections -my left leg as well this time -so now I've got two bruised legs. However I think the first bruises just might be starting to fade.I certainly couldn't wear shorts yet. I can see it will be quite a few months at least before I do that -I thought results would be more immediate. Straight after the injections my leg was really painful, I had the 30min walk which relieved it a bit but the legs didn't stop being really painful until the next morning.Now they are very tender at the injection sites. Do let me know how you are.
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 03/22/2002 09:09 PM
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Beverley16597

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Hi Buppyiface, I'm so sorry you've had to have more veins squeezed- it sounds terrible. I really hope that things start to go better for you. when I had the first injections with the ultrasound I had to wear the compression stocking for ten days-five of those at night as well. Now I've had the micro sclerotherapy -and numerous cotton balls(at least 30-I lost count as I took them off.) were stuck on my leg and then the stocking put over. they could be removed 24hours later. I was told my leg was typical of someone who had had a vein stripped in the past ( I had mine done about ten years ago.)Most of my veins were superficial but very extensive. I think sclerotherapy is much more painful than surgery - in fact I don't remember much pain at all when I had my vein stripped by small incisions down the leg. and no bruising either -I've got plenty of bruises from this treatment though.I know they'll fade eventually. I'll keep you posted on progress. I go back to the doctor next Thursday for more on my right leg and some on my left - though I'm starting to wonder about that as my left isn't all that bad really and I'm starting to feel a bit wimpish about it! I wonder if laser would remove your pigmentation if the marks don't go.All for now. Take care and hope you are having good healing. Bye.
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